5-13-08, Walter Hoye in Oakland, California
May 13, 2008 Clinic escorts routinely block Rev. Hoye’s sign with blank signs to prevent women from seeing his message: ‘God loves you and your baby. Let us help.’ For details, please see lldf.org
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- 5-13-08, Walter Hoye in Oakland, California
Where was Jesus in the Old Testament again? Oh, that’s right, just prophecies… He wasn’t born yet. you can keep quoting scripture, but I still think you’re ignorant. If you really believe that all of this “God hates the world” is a good evangelism tool, no wonder the world is going to hell in a hand basket.
Try the “God loves you” approach and you may get more than “F*** You” responses.
if God hates the world, why have the Bible?
Freedom of speech can be a little bit messy, even a little disturbing sometimes. Rev. Walter Hoye certainly has freedom of speech. But so do the elderly female clinic volunteers. At demonstrations, it is not unusual for demonstrators to try to cover opponent’s signs. I wish I had a nickel for every time I did this or someone did it to me. This is just a short clip. What we see here is freedom of speech and not censorship.
The abortion lobby is pure evil in this country. Thank God for people like Walter Hoye exposing just how corrupt they are.
Forget speech.. how ’bout freedom from harassment? My mom has protested with Pastor Hoye and there was an escort woman designated to sing as loud as she could so that no one could hear what Walter said to the women going in. They cover his signs and stand around him and block his way… an act more imposing and overt than what he was arrested and convicted for. The law has been twisted to suit a business in need of profit, and not to suit the constitution.
The “bubble laws” were passed because of some seriously bad behavior at clinics by religious people. It allegedly included even spitting on the women as they tried to enter the clinic. If Rev. Hoye would like to help women and families, he could push for medical insurance coverage of birth control for women. Viagra, for men, is usually covered. Birth control for women often isn’t. This is a sore point for people who are concerned about women and families.
Jesus stated ” I did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it” . Read you Bible more often.
and what the heck does that have to do with our current discussion?
try learning you[r] english more often?
Your the one that said there was a differents in the way God dealt with the world in the OT and how he does in the NT. And my english is fine, my typing could be better. Sorry my responce sounded a little hateful. Didn’t mean to come off that way. The only difference in the NT is that the blood of Christ covers our sin if we try our best to live the way God wants us to and don’t go around repeating the same sin. God Bless and I am sorry for the smart remark.
no worries about the smart remark. i responded in like fashion, which was wrong of me as well.
The blood of Christ is much more powerful than the blood of one’s best stock I’d assume. and it’s also key that you said “don’t go around repeating the same sin”. repentance is a big part of it.
i will try not responding so sarcastically in the future.
Yes, it is, because if women don’t have abortions, the clinics don’t hear “cha-ching” all day long. It’s big business to kill babies.
No, it’s baby-killing big business Klan Parenthood! Don’t get in the way when they are killing black and brown babies, or you get what you deserve!
Planned Parenthood=Slaughter Houses
DNA@Conception=Unique Identity=LIFE
Wow, that woman holding the blank poster board must be hard up for a job. Holding a blank sign, that has got to be very boring.
right, and lets not talk about the donations to churches, the church tax in a lot of countries, the tax evasion by churches, lets forget all that and lets focus on a service that i dont agree with and blame it as big business.
Last time I checked, churches are not in the baby-killing business. What an inane comment.
well last time i checked, hospitals weren’t in this business either.
Klan Barrenhood is not a hospital but an abortion clinic. You were the one who brought in churches and now you are switching your comment to include hospitals! There are reports from people who worked at Klan Barrenhood who expose their technique of prescribing birth control to young girls who are really not able to be as careful as they should, so in spite of the pills, they get pregnant, which is what Klan Barrenhood indirectly encourages. They can then “help” by aborting the baby.
And here’s another fact – 50% of babies aborted are FEMALE, so why aren’t feminists and militant lesbians protesting against THAT???? Even if they hate men and wish all men were dead (which of course would mean no more lesbians born either), surely they don’t hate the female babies enough to allow them to be aborted?? but you never hear of them being angry about female babies in China being aborted either. Or about women’s rights in Muslim countries. HYPOCRITES!
alright, im not from the us so i didnt know that.
my point is, im not against counseling but if a woman makes the choice of aborting her baby, she should not be harassed by people with signs.
And if you are arguing against the clinic, they have the same right of demonstrating as the protester.
And abortions are not against the law. So if you have a problem with that you should file a lawsuit.
Planned Parenthood is worldwide, you probably have them in your country too. And we will talk to women up until the second they walk in those doors, because the decision can always be changed and the baby can live. Abortions may not be against the law of the land but they are against GOD’S LAW which trumps everything else. Bad laws should be overturned and Roe v. Wade was a bad Supreme Court decision. You can’t have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness if you are killed in the womb.
You have to ask yourself, why do these people get so threatened by a simple sign and one man offering to help people who want to change their minds. What is it to the clinic? If they *really* wanted to help women, wouldn’t they allow help in whatever way necessary? It’s not about help, it’s not about choice, it’s about MONEY! The Brinks truck pulls up every day to take the BLOOD money to the bank. Whatever gets in the way of the CASH is going to be attacked. That’s the real story.
I do have them in my country and i respect everyone’s right to make their own decision and have their own religion.
Which you don’t.
So why are you living in a country that has a law to respect these rights when you don’t want to?
You should move to an Islamic state, most of them too want to put their god over the right of the people.
What about the baby’s rights? Does the baby have any right to live? It is not part of the mother, it is a separate human being with its own DNA. Is there anyone who cares about the baby’s rights? Women are hurt and injured and even killed by abortion. Men are hurt too. And babies of course are killed. Whose rights are we honoring? I see that Klan Barrenhood’s corporate rights to profit from murder are being respected.
Does a pig have less consciousness than a unborn baby? Are you a vegetarian? Do you care about the right of the animal to live? Do you care about its suffering?
All what’s left then is your hypocritical opinion based on a religious view.